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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 9, 2010 4:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

"...free exchange of ideas that the internet has become..."

EDIT: William Tell submits to 50 ethernet lashes for mis-speaking...the above just struck his funny Luddite bone.

This post was modified by William Tell on 2010-08-09 23:42:03

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 9, 2010 4:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

Certainly the internet is just as vulnerable to dissemination of mass-produced BS as are all other media channels. But at least in theory, everyone has an equal opportunity to get their POV out there. Depending on how these guidelines are written, they could signal the beginning of corporate control of information (blocked websites, slower traffic for websites that do not pay extra, etc.).

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Poster: fu2 Date: Aug 9, 2010 4:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

I NEW if I waited long enough someone would use the word "corperate" or "corperation"!!! LOL

Bit torrent is part of the problem that is causing this mess. It eats up too much bandwidth.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Aug 9, 2010 4:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

Bit torrent is not the problem, the problem is the internet service providers (ISP) do not want to increase their bandwidth capacity to meet the increased demand from their users. They seek to ration the amount of bandwidth to the sites or services that they deem more worthy than others.

As more and more information is accessible (for free, esp!) on the internet, it is natural that users will seek out this information, thereby using more bandwidth. IMO, The answer is not to try to appropriate more bandwidth to certain services/websites but to expand bandwidth capacity overall in order to allow the increasing quantity of information to continue to flow.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 9, 2010 4:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

Sorry DP--I was DEAD wrong in my wording there...see above.

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Poster: Purple Gel Date: Aug 9, 2010 4:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

There is a free exchange of ideas, good and bad, truth and lies. The point is that the net does not discriminate in favor or against any idea or ideology. That could very well change with this deal. Sites like this one could be blocked (unlikely) or regulated to slower speeds (very possible).

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffNoiseCollector Date: Sep 28, 2010 7:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

If I am not mistaken, isn't the whole dispute over usage of the networks by the those who built them? I think some may be confusing "Net Neutrality" with the "Fairness Doctrine"- which is targeted at ideological content on radio because when liberals cannot dominate a part of media, it must be evil (see the ridiculous and exaggerated hatred of Fox News for example).

From what I read, Net Neuterdom is more for titrating download speed, basically the same thing as the stupid car pool lane that is always empty while I sit in deadlock traffic with people who are talking on cell phones and not even going to work. If they let people drive in that lane there would be less traffic, less road rage, less wasted gasoline and greenhouses emissions... kinda like everything that is made to help but causes more problems.

I am not for it, but the claims made by those that have spent money on R & D and maintenance of the infrastructure of the "internet" want to sell off the higher bandwidths for profit and relegate the rest of us to the slow lane... let us eat cake in other words.

I am still looking for a link to restriction based on content but have yet not seen any direct connection... but I will keep looking.

So for now, I would say this is more of a consumer rights issue as opposed to a philosophical or ideological issue like the "fairness" doctrine. Sine the internet is free (figuratively- accessing it is obviously not) it will be interesting to watch.

That's my two cents.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 9, 2010 4:20pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

Absolutely...of course my response was misplaced; one could easily say we must ban books as a result of Mein Kampf, etc.

I was just struck by the "free exchange" utopian terminology...that was all.

I know you and DHM are doing good.

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Poster: buscameby Date: Aug 9, 2010 4:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

but Big Bro does monitor as much as it can and will bite you in the ASS if they can , free internet or no internet.

But I pray for the free speech internet, it may be our last chance to save our ***s.

I sent my vote in PG.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Aug 9, 2010 4:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Death of 'Net Neutrality' .... Say Goodbye to BitTorrent

Damn...as a direct result of the internet my ass is twice as large now too!